I remember when I'm talking to, same guy I'm talking to you about Delta.

I'm like, hey, why don't you, why don't you tell this story? I can't. Why not? I don't even want anybody to know I served. Why? Well, because, you know, we made a pat. Yes, they did. So you don't want, it says, Pat, I'm telling you nothing. Write a book. No. What if you, you know, you can make some, no, nothing.

He didn't want to do anything about it.

He didn't want to talk about it. You know, Delta's the best in the world about that. They, I mean, it's, why is that though? They are just really good. They're very prideful about the, the secrets of their mission and what they do together. They don't want anyone enough. Why is that? I don't know. They just respect it. Like, I've been to their compound, and they've got trophy cases and whatnot, but there's, there's curtains over them. No one can see them unless you're a guest specifically, like from another unit. And then when everything's secure, they'll bring them up, and you can see, like, Saddam's guns and shit like that stuff they did in Colombia.

But then they put the curtains back, they don't tell anyone anything. Get out of you. You know, and people say to me, they're like, yeah, silent professional, like, Navy SEALs? No, we're not Delta is the silent professionals. Not us. We're, you know, I mean, granted, there are stuff I don't say, but seals are not exactly known for being the sign of the professional. Delta is. And they're really good about it. And they're very professional.

Where does that come from, though? That has to come from the top in training, right? So, who, didn't the founder of Delta write a book about it? Didn't Charlie Beckwith is that name?

Something like that. Inside Delta, yeah, he did. But he wrote a book about it, right? So if the founder of Delta write a book about it. Charlie Beckwith is that a name? Something like that. Inside Delta, yeah. He wrote a book about it, right? So if the founder did that, then the rest of the guys don't, who at one point said, guys, I don't give the founder. Yeah, I thought he wrote a book about it, if I'm not mistaken. He was he wrote Inside Delta Force. Didn't he live in Frisco, Texas or somewhere in Texas? I thought he moved to like Friscoe. Yep, he died in Austin. But he used to, did he ever live in Friscoe, or Dallas, Texas? Can you see Dallas, Texas or Frisco, nothing? No. Interesting. Yeah, everybody would talk about how this guy wrote a book. but to Delta guys They didn't They didn't like that

I know Yeah, everybody would talk about how this guy wrote a book.

But to Delta guys, you can't get shit out of them. They didn't like that. I mean, to my friends who were at Delta or veterans from Delta, they were not happy with his book. But we've seen it with Richard DeMarcinko. He founded Steel Team 6. And he wrote a book. He couldn't get it to proof, so he wrote it based on fiction. And he was like, they would say, well, people up top would say bad things about him, but shooters loved them because he got in trouble for doing the right thing for his guys, getting the guns you need, getting the plane tickets you need, doing the job you need to do. And he was, he was loved. but I don't really know. Well, Delta's so secretive. I don't really know what they think about him either. I'd work with Delta,

and they're fantastic.

So what was the biggest thing that you sensed about them? You got Air Force, you got the paratrooper, you got all these other guys. What was about Delta that was different than everybody else? My initial reaction to Delta, this is no bullshit. The first time I've worked with them was when I just checked into CL Team 6. My initial reaction was that's Delta.

I really hope. initial reaction to Delta, this is no bullshit. The first time I've worked with them was when I just checked into Steel Team 6,

my initial reaction was that's Delta,

I really hope I meet the guy who eventually kills

Osama bin Laden. That would be so cool.

Because you thought it would be a Delta. Of course they're going to get it.

It's going to be in a landlocked country.

Why would Seal Team 6 get it?

Delta's going to get it. I think we got it because they concentrated on Iraq and we stayed in Afghanistan. Does everybody know, like this, is the consensus like you know how in the NBA, you ask the current players who's the greatest player of all time? Young kids will say LeBron, but a lot of guys will say Michael. Does everybody know Tier 1 that Delta is the way to go? I probably shouldn't say this, but you can tell Michael Jordan's the best because he's never said he is. And I'm not saying Delta's the best because they don't say they are because, I mean, if you ask me right now, we're better. Our tactics are better. We operated better. But pull a Delta guy if you can get him here, he'll tell you the same thing about them. And they were just, I mean, they were awesome. But if somebody watches this right now, the way you describe Delta is that Delta's better than SEAL Team 6.

No, I didn't say that.

No, we were awesome. But if somebody watches this right now, the way you describe deltas, that delta's better

than SEAL Team 6.

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