DELPHI VERDICT WATCH: JURY DELIBERATES MURDERS OF ABBY, 13, LIBBY, 14

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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🗓️ 7 November 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Richard Allen's fate is now in the hand of the jury. Twelve men and woman have been tasked with determining, back on the evidence presented, whether or not Allen is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proof is on the state. The judge told the jury in their instruction that "beyond all possible doubt” is not their guidepost. She said defendants are not convicted on suspicion, and that the jury decision must be unanimous.

The defense surprised the courtroom yesterday by resting their case, not calling as many witnesses as expected. Closing arguments today were completed by lunchtime. Just after 1pm the jury went behind closed doors to pick a fore person. Deliberations will continue until 4pm today, unless the jury chooses to stay and deliberate longer. Sunday is the only day, deliberations won't take place.

Joining Nancy Grace today:

Philip Dubé – Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law; Forensics & Mental Health Advocacyy
Dr. Bethany Marshall – Psychoanalyst, Author – “Deal Breaker,” featured in hit show: “Paris in Love” on Peacock;, Instagram & TikTok: drbethanymarshall, X: @DrBethanyLive
Sheryl McCollum – Forensics Expert & Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder; Host of Podcast: “Zone 7;” X: @149Zone7
Bill Daly – Former FBI Investigator and Forensic Photography, Security Expert
Joe Scott Morgan – Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author, “Blood Beneath My Feet,” and Host: “Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;”X: @JoScottForensic
Dave Mack - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter

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0:00.0	Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
0:07.0	Closing arguments in the Delphi murders of Abby 13 and Libby 14. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
0:17.0	Major Pat Cicero says there was a voluminous amount of blood at the crime scene, but most
0:22.4	of it came from Libby German.
0:24.7	Cicero says Libby was moving and basically walking in blood.
0:29.0	Abby Williams died in the same spot where she was attacked.
0:32.9	I really believe that Abby and Libby would be proud of you for standing strong even in the face of immense pressure and perpetual criticism.
0:42.3	Some of these individuals have postponed retirement, passed on promotional opportunity, have dedicated personal time away from their families,
0:51.3	given up nights, weekends, and holidays, all while in the pursuit of
0:54.9	accountability for having living. I know that today's announcement will not diminish your
1:01.8	resolve, and I hope you have found just a bit of peace in this most complicated world.
1:07.5	Wow, how true. Those were the words of Superintendent Doug Carter with the Indiana
1:14.6	State Police months and months ago. Yet it all rings true. The trial that has taken weeks and years in the making
1:25.3	culminates with closing arguments today in the Delphi Court of Law.
1:32.6	Joining me an all-star panel to make sense of what we know right now. But first, to Cheryl McCollum,
1:39.8	forensic expert, founder of the Cold Case Research Institute and star of Zone 7 podcast, Cheryl McCollum,
1:46.0	when I heard the words of Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, it really gave me pause.
1:54.7	Did you hear what he said that facing immense pressure and perpetual criticism that L.E. had moved forward.
2:05.7	And that is what this trial has been, immense pressure and perpetual criticism.
2:11.5	They have been attacked from all sides.
2:15.4	They have stood firm.
2:17.3	They have been professional. They have been without hesitation
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