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Coming up on the Mark Devine show, why do I have to go to the office to work?

It's like the files are in the file cabinet at the office.

If somebody calls me on my business phone, it's going to ring in the office.

If I want to have a meeting, it's at the office.

If I need somebody to type something up on letterhead, it's at the office.

Well, we haven't had to do that for a couple of decades.

Hi, this is Mark Devine and you're listening to the Mark Devine show.

Thanks so much for joining me today.

I'm super stoked to have you here on the show.

I explore what it means to be fearless.

The lens of the world's most inspirational, compassionate and resilient leaders.

I speak to amazing people from all walks of life, martial arts, grandmasters, and stoic philosophers,

and leading consultants from remarkable firms like McKinsey, such as my guest today, Aaron.

They spent, Aaron is the author of Deliberate Com.

I'd learn and lead in the volatile world.

I've been consulting for many years at McKinsey, a pair of that at Pricewaterhouse Coopers.

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