Hello and welcome into the latest edition of ESPNFC, Alain Moreno, Shaka Hislop and myself

K. Murray.

And we'll start the show by talking about Everton Midfielder, Delay, who has opened up

in a very emotional and raw interview about trauma suffered in his childhood.

On his recent struggles, he said, it's hard to pinpoint one exact moment when I started

to feel that things weren't right.

Only the saddest moment for me was when Moreno was manager.

I think I was 24.

I remember there was one session, like one morning, I woke up and I had to go to train in.

This is when he'd stopped playing me and I was in a bad place.

I remember just looking in the mirror.

I mean, it sounds dramatic, but I was literally staring in the mirror and I was asking if I

could retire now at 24, doing the thing I love.

For me, that was heartbreaking to even have had that thought at 24, to want to retire.

That hurt me a lot.

Now it was a very raw and upsetting interview for anyone who's seen it.

He opened up about being sexually abused as a child, how he was dealing drugs as a child,

and how a lot of this trauma from his childhood has gone on to lead him to some of the matters

that he's talked about in this interview and addiction to sleeping pills, having to

go into rehab as well.

Frankl Boss with us now, Ali and Shaka still here.

It just goes to show Shaka.

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