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The Retirement and IRA Show

Delay Period Strategy: EDU #2540

The Retirement and IRA Show

Jim Saulnier, CFP® & Chris Stein, CFP®

Business, Investing

4.3730 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Chris’s Summary
Jim and I return for an EDU dialogue episode focused on a listener’s delay period strategy. His plan includes laddered CDs, equity ETFs, delayed Social Security, and Roth conversions. We use his plan to discuss bracket drift, spending liquidity, and how rising markets can complicate a fixed glidepath. We also cover the tax planning window, crossover risk, and why even strong plans need regular adjustments—especially when they rely on assumptions that may not hold up year to year.

Jim’s “Pithy” Summary
Chris and I are back with an EDU dialogue show, and this one is a deep dive inspired by a listener who shared what he calls a simple delay period strategy. Honestly, I like a lot of it. He’s got a plan. He’s doing Roth conversions, delaying Social Security—all good stuff. He’s even laddered out CDs to fund his Minimum Dignity Floor™ and his Go-Go fun. That’s great—until you read the line that made me pause: “when the markets rise.” Not “if the markets rise.”

And what if they don’t rise? What if your equity side’s down and your CDs aren’t enough? Now you’re spending from equities when you didn’t want to. Suddenly, the conversion you were planning that year? You can’t do it as planned without jumping to a higher bracket.  So, do you cut back on spending or on your planned conversion? That’s how these things fall apart.

He’s got structure, he’s got glidepaths, he’s even adjusting the ladder year by year. But don’t assume growth will keep bailing you out. If you do and markets stall, your whole glidepath strategy starts to crack. And as Jacob and I just talked about at lunch—Go-Go money is tough. You don’t know if someone’s going to call and ask for money for a dream vacation or a home remodel and we’ve got to build with that in mind. We also explain why I call it spending liquidity. Liquidity isn’t enough. You need cash you can actually spend without penalties, volatility, or surprise taxes. That’s what makes this kind of planning work.

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Join us as certified financial planner Jim Sonier, as well as Colorado State University Finance instructor and certified Certified Financial Planner Chris Stein teach you about IRAs,

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Now here's Jim and Chris with today's show. Well, hello everybody and welcome to

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the Retirement and IRA show, EDU edition for this week. This week we've got Jim back, so he

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and I are going to roll with a show today. We're going to do what we refer to as a dialogue show. So when we discuss

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dialogue is where we kind of invite commentary, if you will, from listeners out there who

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are typically do-it-yourselfers that are deploying some version of retirement planning that utilizes at least some part of what

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we espouse here on the show and also share with us how they kind of maybe modify it for their own

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special approach, if you will. So we've got a couple of emails from people that have done that.

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So that's going to be our approach

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today to the show is going to kind of share with you what a fellow listener out there is doing.

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And we'll provide kind of our comments and things we maybe agree with, things that we are

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concerned about, things that we applaud etc that's that's the

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