Scientists are in different spaces when it comes to COVID vaccine.

Neal still believes in it as though he's still living in 2020 somewhere.

But there's a lot of scientists that have, you know,

jump ship on the COVID vaccine,

but they're trying to button it all up as like a one-off

and fired out in a space where maybe Neal will see it in his telescope.

What I mean is something that we pointed out at a recent panel

that was put together in Florida by Ron DeSantis.

And nothing against these guys,

but I just want to point out that this is a lot of the conversations happening right now.

There's been a tremendous loss of trust in public health.

And I think you can see that in the decreased uptake of vaccines

that have been traditionally used in other states.

This isn't just, you know, anti-vax people.

This is people who have really lost trust in the system.

And I think in order to restore that,

you have to restore that trust to get those people to believe

in the efficacy of these vaccines that have been used for decades

without problem and that have been very effective.

The other vaccines actually are quite effective,

quite safe.

The fact that the public health authorities in the United States

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