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Plus every single day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, you can listen to this episode or any of our other episodes at the same time, ad free over on Patreon. Hey everyone, this is David. Welcome back behind the velvet rope. Let's just get right into it today because we are joined by the one and only, MJ Corey.

Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here. What's going on today? I mean, listen, so you are a psychotherapist. You know, this is your day job. I'm a former lawyer, so I used to practice corporate tax law.

So I understand, you know, doing other things

and transitioning and doing things on the side.

But how does a psychotherapist get into deconstructing

the Kardashians?

And we should say you have a huge platform on Instagram

and on TikTok called Kardashian Colloquium.

And you have just wrote a book called Deconstructing the Kardashians. This is a buck.

This is a long book. So how'd you get into all of this?

I was actually in my therapist training years when I got into the Kardashians back in 2018. I was a bit late to the game. Like the Kardashians were well on their journey by that point. And I was one of those people that didn't like really keep up with reality TV. And then a friend put on the show, I mean, I'd already seen the Kardashians obviously inundating my, and I saw them in the news, and I was fairly ambivalent.

But one day a friend put on keeping up with the Kardashians, it was the episode when Kim is at Borah Bora with her family at a resort there, and she's being a diva all over the resort, and Rob is not having it, and he says, mom raised you better than that. Dad raised you better than that.

And this whole episode, just like every Kardashian's episode, really, had followed this very

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