Keith Hernandez joins us once again on this week's episode of the Shainating podcast.

We're happy to have him to talk about some struggling hitters in the Mets lineup,

not so struggling.

Mets Ace and Jacob de Grom.

I mean, what more can you say about him?

We'll ask Keith of who he reminds him of in his career.

And whether or not DeGram is already better than doc was in that historic

1985 season the shenan-a-ding podcast starts right now all right welcome to the show everybody

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Keith, so before we even dig into DeGrom, we want to start with Reaction Revisited.

We're going to play something that you said on the air.

So interesting listening to you digest and react to that start in real time.

But Gary at one point, and you were talking about what historically he reminds you of, and of course, that brings up Doc in 85.

Here's some of what you said on the broadcast about that. We're a couple of interviews with Doc Gooden this week in the wake of DeGrom's latest performance.

And Doc said, look, I have him in complete games and wins.

He's got me and everything else.

And a lot of people were stunned that I said that the

the Grom was beyond Doc on his best day.

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