Oh, it is the Jesse Kelly show. Let's have some fun on a Tuesday and it is going to be a bit of a roller coaster of a night. And this is what I mean by roller coaster. I'm giving you a heads up now.

There are going to be some peaks tonight as there always are what we laugh and have fun and there are going to be some lows and we are about 30 seconds away from getting to some of those lows.

You know, I don't like to bring you down, but we have to talk about that tonight. I have economist Tiana Low coming up in hour and a half from now.

I want to know why we should care about the debt. You care about that? Most don't. What's the big deal? I want to talk to somebody really smart about that. We're going to talk about this NYPD officer.

We just lost another one. We'll talk about that here in just a few minutes. We're going to talk about you'll have to wait and see on the college front. Just keep that in the back of your mind. But all that aside, let's let's let's get into the meat of it right now.

Are there different degrees of evil? I think I think we would all we would all acknowledge or at least most of us would think there are right? I mean, there are differing degrees of evil.

If you take a father gets a woman pregnant and then runs out on her leaves her alone to raise that kid by herself kid has to grow up without a dad she grows up with that. I think we would agree that's an evil thing to do, right? That's a terrible thing to do.

Is he as evil as John Wayne Gacy who murdered a bunch of kids? No, no, differing degrees of evil. But I think we should also acknowledge and I'm going somewhere with this. We're going to we're going to talk about this.

I think we also should acknowledge you can be on the same level of evil while doing different things. If I was to ask you, hey, name for me the most evil person who I've ever lived.

The normal answer would probably be Hitler or Stalin or Mao. If you're more of a history buff type, maybe you'd go someone like Gilderay. I would not recommend looking up Gilderay or his crimes while you're eating, but just setting that aside. I mean, you would most people would say Hitler or Stalin or Mao, let's stay with Hitler.

Even though that's a little bit of a cliche at this point, let's stay with Hitler. Okay, so you say Hitler's the most evil person that ever lived. I'm not arguing with that. Obviously, you can certainly make a strong case. Answer me this. Do you consider Hitler to be more evil than Jeffrey Dahmer?

That's hard to question to answer. Is it not? I mean, Hitler is certainly responsible for more death, but Hitler wasn't killing him personally and he certainly wasn't eating him for dinner afterwards.

Different. Would you consider that different? Would you consider that on the same plane of evil or on a different plane of evil? And this is the reason I ask this question.

If I was to show up at your mother's home tonight, and I was to murder her, I came in with an axe and murdered your mom tonight. I think every single person listening to the sound of my voice would agree that is profoundly evil.

My goodness, put him on trial, lock him up, put him in the electric chair of giving life in prison. I don't care what you do. Get that evil axe murderer to prison now.

He murdered my mom with an axe. But let me ask you something. Let's say your mom was laying there in a hospital bed, drowning in her own lung fluid from a disease. And you, you had something other doctors are saying is a cure.

You have doctors and nurses, you have healthcare professionals, they're saying to you, hey, take this, take this medicine and it will save her life.

And as you're walking up to the bed with your mother, they are drowning in her lung fluid to give her this medication. Doctors and nurses are telling you will save her life.

And I run up to you and say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not allowed to give that to her. Nope, I take the bill bottle away from you and I flush it down the toilet.

I know that's a lot cleaner. Is that less evil than walking into her bedroom with an axe in the middle of the night?

You know what it's like to drown? Let alone on your own lung fluid, you ever seen somebody dying of, say, lung cancer?

Let me assure you, it is not a pleasant way to go. You may prefer the axe.

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