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The Documentary Podcast

Degrees of Deception

The Documentary Podcast

BBC

Society & Culture, Documentary, Personal Journals

4.32.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 January 2018

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

An investigation into one of the world’s biggest degree mills, a Pakistani company, that has sold over 200,000 bogus qualifications. IT company Axact has created hundreds of websites purporting to be online universities offering a range of academic qualifications from degrees to doctorates. However while a degree can cost just a few thousand dollars this BBC investigation has discovered customers are also being blackmailed for buying them and some have paid over more than $500,000.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Simon Cox and this week's assignment here on the BBC World Service exposes one of the world's biggest fake degree companies.

0:10.0

I am a natural bone con man I am one of the most feared one of the most respected one of the most notorious

0:19.0

This modest salesman is a whistleblower on the run. He moves frequently,

0:24.1

his only solace the cigarettes he chain smokes. We speak to him late at night on the

0:29.2

phone, he won't say from where.

0:31.2

I am a marked man.

0:34.0

I have a bounty of $10,000 on my head right now.

0:38.0

Because of this, we're using an actor to re voice his words. We're calling him

0:45.9

Mohammed. For over a decade he was part of a complex scam selling fake degrees to

0:52.0

tens of thousands of people around the world from a

0:54.7

company in Pakistan called Exact.

0:57.8

Exact, World's Leading IT Company, in 1997. It started from a one-room office. The

1:06.5

mission of exact, which acts like a guiding light for the exactions, can be

1:11.8

simply put into two words, winning and caring.

1:16.0

Winning was what Mohammed did as a top exact salesman with a lavish lifestyle.

1:22.0

I was given a driver, I was given vacations, I had a company paid mobile phone,

1:27.0

I was being given alcohol and women on the company's payroll.

1:31.0

The company made its money selling fake qualifications.

1:34.0

Former FBI agent Alan Azle is an expert in bogus degree companies

1:39.0

and he watched Exact become a huge global firm.

1:43.2

They've got money and wire transfers going around

1:45.8

that you wouldn't believe.

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