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Degrees Of Change: Sea Level Rise, Coal-Use Decline. May 17, 2019, Part 1

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🗓️ 17 May 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

As the frequency of tropical storms and droughts increase and sea levels rise with climate change, forested wetlands along the Atlantic coast are slowly filling with dead and dying trees. The accelerating spread of these “ghost forests” over the past decade has ecologists alarmed and eager to understand how they are formed and what effect they will have regionally and globally.  One interdisciplinary group of researchers from North Carolina State University and Duke University are examining the causes and effects of repeated saltwater exposure to the coastal wetlands of North Carolina. Using soil and sediment sampling, remote hydrological monitoring, vegetation plotting, as well as spatial maps, the research team is determining the tipping point for when a struggling forest will become a ghost forest. According to ecologist Emily Bernhardt, their preliminary findings suggest that climate change is not the only culprit in the region. Agricultural irrigation and wastewater ditches that criss-cross much of the Albemarle-Pamlico Peninsula facilitate the flow of saltwater intrusion deep into the landscape, wreaking ecological and economic havoc. Working with Brian Boutin, director of the Nature Conservancy’s Albemarle-Pamlico Program, Dr. Bernhardt and colleagues hope to provide valuable scientific insights to local farmers, wetlands managers, and regional decision-makers to plan for the further intrusions and hopefully mitigate the effects. Meanwhile, less than 100 miles up the coast from the Albemarle-Pamlico peninsula, the cities of Hampton Roads, Virginia along the Chesapeake Bay are facing some of the worst flooding due to sea level rise in the country. In Norfolk, home of the United States Navy, tides have increased as much as eight inches since the 1970s, and roads that lead from the community directly to naval installations are particularly vulnerable to flooding. But in the last 10 years, Hampton Roads has begun to adapt. “When we first started having these discussions, there was a lot of concern about, should we be having discussions like this in public. What would be the potential impacts on economic development or on the population growth here?” said Ben McFarlane, senior regional planner with the Hampton Roads Planning District Commission. “Now it’s recognized and people know it’s happening. I think the strategy has changed to being more of a ‘Let’s stop talking about how bad it is and how bad it’s going to get. And let’s start talking about solutions.’” The Planning District Commission supports the use of living shorelines and ordinance changes that discourage developing in flood prone areas. Norfolk has even been named one of the Rockefeller Foundation’s 100 Resilient Cities in part for its efforts promoting coastal resiliency in the face of sea level rise. Plus, the latest investment report from the International Energy Agency was released this week, and shows that in 2018, final investment decisions were made to support bringing an additional 22GW of coal-fired electric generation online—but in the same year, around 30 GW of coal-burning generating capacity were closed. Of course, coal plants are still under construction, and there are thousands of terawatts of coal-generating capacity worldwide, so the end of coal is nowhere in sight yet—but the investment report may indicate a tipping point in the global energy budget. Kendra Pierre-Louis, a reporter on the climate desk at the New York Times, joins Ira to talk about that and other climate news—including the President’s energy policy remarks at a natural gas plant, the discovery of another ocean garbage patch of plastic, and the rise of “climate refuge cities.”

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato.

0:10.0

The climate is changing, and because we need to deal with it now, this week we open the second chapter of our series, Degrees of Change.

0:19.0

In the months ahead, we will explore the challenges of a changing climate

0:22.7

and how we as a planet and a people are adapting. This week, what coastal communities are doing

0:29.8

in response to sea level rise will bring you two stories, one from North Carolina,

0:34.8

the other from Virginia, where farmers, ecologists, beachgoers, and the military have reached a moment of reckoning with the salty sea.

0:43.5

If you can't hold back the rising tide, how do you accommodate it?

0:48.3

And we're looking to you to help direct our coverage.

0:51.7

We asked you last month to tell us what your community is doing to tackle climate change head on or to adapt.

0:59.2

And you shared your stories with us.

1:01.8

Hey, Science Friday.

1:03.1

My name is Sarah Lapuma, and I live in Staten Island, New York.

1:05.8

This is David Hill with Buffalo Bend Bar in Cibolo, Texas.

1:09.5

This is Andrew Stone in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

1:12.7

I'm Bill Duff, and I live in a place called Sleepy Hollow in Marin County, California.

1:16.8

I'm a member of a community group that was formed to demand the preservation of the

1:20.8

Graniteville wetland and forest in northwestern Staten Island.

1:23.8

The city of Albuquerque, which received some of the best solar in the United States,

1:27.8

has committed to going 100% renewable by 2022. We're a small bar between San Antonio and Austin,

1:34.3

and probably the only establishment around here with solar panels promoted as getting off

1:39.2

the government grid. Sleepy Hollows, a long, narrow valley, lots of dry grass, and trees.

1:43.9

Our homeowners association developed a wildfire hazard protection plan. Sleepy hollows, a long, narrow valley, lots of dry grass and trees.

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