This is Lance Wallnau.

I'm doing a special broadcast now on Supernatural Healing,

divine, miraculous healing.

And I've got some testimonies that are all, I just saw them myself like five minutes ago,

right out of conferences that we've been in.

And I want to welcome back, Pastor Shirley here.

Thanks for joining us and Mercedes-Sparks.

And the reason why this show is of utmost importance today is because we've been collecting data.

I'm a big guy on data.

And we started looking at these seven mountains years ago, and I said, why are we not seeing believers go to the top of these mountains,

coming up with innovative, even millennial insight into the future and bringing into the presence

to demonstrate the kingdom of God? And I'm looking for technology. I'm looking for breakthrough.

Am I wrong? Daniel went to Babylon, and the Bible says he had an excellent spirit, and he ended

up being a senior advisor to three different presidents because his wisdom plus his prophetic

came together. Years ago, Shirley, I remember Oral Roberts, I have a degree from Royal Roberts University.

I go on the campus, and I remember seeing these two hands come together, a small one and a large one. And I recall the furor that existed

in my Pentecostal mentors world when I was but a young lad because they didn't like Oral Roberts

building a university. They said it should all be the Bible and the spirit, not the natural. But

Oral was seeing the future. He was saying, like Pat Robertson, why can't we do media? Why can't

we have a university? When it comes to medicine, why can't we take prayer and supernatural

and have doctors that believe both in the power of God and the skill and technology

of breakthrough for healing. God's in the healing business. Why can't we have man submitted to God in

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