Defunding the Police and Abolition as Forms of Democracy / Sonali Kolhatkar

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5 • 930 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Sonali Kolhatkar, author of “Rising Up: The Power of Narrative in Pursuing Racial Justice” joins us to discuss her new book “Talking About Abolition: A Police-Free World Is Possible”, published by Seven Stories Press. Purchase the book at this link: https://sevenstories.com/books/4670-talking-about-abolition?srsltid=AfmBOopfJr7eEoqqTYOKWx9Q_aJhojtOxT5fyipK4DfbqnIfm4q0VBy1 Sonali Kolhatkar’s website: https://www.sonalikolhatkar.com Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: www.patreon.com/thisishell

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0:00.0	Take it down the water's with the water with the
0:14.0	power
0:16.0	and the last of our power
0:18.0	Take it down This is Pick it back!
0:22.6	This is Hell.
0:44.3	Live from the United States, where the law is far too often the crime, as we will be discussing today.
0:53.2	This is hell. Welcome back to another year of This
0:58.5	is Hell. I hope you are with us throughout 2025 as we learn more and more from our guests
1:04.6	throughout the year. What if I told you that since the uprising against racialized police
1:10.2	violence, deadly racialized police violence, what if I told you that since the uprising against racialized police violence, deadly racialized police violence?
1:14.2	What if I told you since that uprising back in the summer of 2020?
1:17.9	The number of people killed by police has actually gone up.
1:24.9	That more people have been killed by police than were murdered prior to the death of an
1:30.2	unarmed George Floyd who was begging for his life. Past guests have told us since the campaigns
1:37.5	against mass incarceration incarceration has actually increased. Climate change activists repeatedly remind us that no matter their successes,
1:47.0	the amount of fossil fuels being burned every year keeps increasing.
1:52.0	It's as if no matter the effort, no matter the energy, no matter the amount of organizing and activism,
2:00.0	no matter the passion of the people,
2:02.9	the challenges we face are so insurmountable
2:06.7	that they are permanent fixtures of society.
2:11.1	While much can be done to make our lives somewhat better,
2:14.6	it seems there's nothing that can be done
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