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Endless Thread

Defrauding Big Tech

Endless Thread

WBUR

Reddit, Technology

4.22.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

They were scammers. But they weren't going to scam just anyone. They were going to scam Big Tech. And they almost got away with it.

Earlier this month, federal prosecutors accused a North Carolina man of stealing royalty payments from music streaming platforms for seven years. He allegedly used artificial intelligence to create songs by fake bands and then play those songs to get paid.

The incident resembles a scheme between 2013 and 2015 when a Lithuanian man bilked Google and Facebook out of more than $100 million before getting caught.

Endless Thread's Ben Brock Johnson and Dean Russell bring two stories of grifts gone wrong.

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Credits: This episode was produced and co-hosted by Ben Brock Johnson and Dean Russell. Mix and sound design by Emily Jankowski.

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0:00.0

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0:19.8

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0:28.0

Dean, how do you get your music?

0:34.0

Oh, the normal way to answer this is to say that I like listen to Spotify for the most part and then also like the radio like you know yeah main

0:46.9

public classical yeah so you do give yourself over to the algorithm, right? Like do you put your hands in the air and

0:56.3

wave them like you just don't care when a robot is requesting you to do it?

1:00.0

I guess, I mean I don't, I don't like dig the whole like creation of playlists for me

1:07.0

But yeah yeah sure algorithms so I think one of the interesting things about the glut of music now, that is now available

1:17.8

to us, the sort of prison of infinite choice that we reside in is that as we sift through the heap of music that we can now access on digital platforms, there is this kind of like this other level of music that feels not just like indie artist or

1:35.3

non-famous but specifically designed to be unremarkable. This is making me think of like, I mean not to be insulting because I do listen to this too but like

1:47.0

lo-fi. Yes. Like the vast majority of it feels it's like by people life yeah exactly exactly yeah

1:56.1

yeah so I have this friend from high school named Danny Shreg nice name

2:02.0

Danny was a musician, is a musician.

2:05.0

You know, he's always kind of like tickling the ivory,

2:08.0

he's a piano player, and he was always putting together these kind of like circular piano music songs like

2:14.2

composing these songs and as he became a full adult with a real job so to speak

2:20.8

Danny started selling jet engines as his day job.

2:25.0

Cool.

2:26.0

And at night he was recording these piano songs that he was composing.

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