There's a presidential press conference.

And a reporter asks President Bush about these reports from Amnesty International,

Human Rights Watch, and the International Committee of the Red Cross saying that the CIA was torturing its prisoners.

And the president looks right in the camera and he says, we do not torture.

And I said to my wife, who was a senior CIA officer, he is a bald-faced liar.

He's looking the American people in the eye and he's lying.

Now, in retrospect, he may not have known.

But he said, we do not torture.

Two days later,

he's walking out of the South Portico of the White House to go to the...

Is this it, by the way?

Is this when he says, we don't torture people?

Yes.

We...

Something else.

There's been a lot of talk in the newspapers and on TV about a program that I put in motion to detain and question a terrorist and extremists.

I have put this program in place for a reason, and that is to better protect the American people. And when we find somebody who may have

information regarding a potential attack on America, you bet we're going to detain them. And

you bet we're going to question them. Because the American people expect us to find out

information, actionable intelligence, so we can help them, help protect them. That's our job.

But it doesn't say...

Secondly, this government does not torture people.

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