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Ongoing History of New Music

Definition (from the vault)

Ongoing History of New Music

Curiouscast

Music History, History, Music, Music Interviews, Music Commentary

4.8604 Ratings

🗓️ 18 March 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

This week, we're going deep into the Ongoing History of New Music vault to talk about "Definitions". Often in the music world, we hear terms discussed...but where did they come from, and what do they mean? What do "New Rock" and "Alternative" mean? What's a "Major Label" or "Indie"? "Boutique" and "Vanity"? Got that covered too. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Alan, and I just wanted to let you know that you can now listen to the ongoing

0:04.3

history of new music early and ad-free on Amazon music, included with Prime.

0:09.3

You don't need me to tell you that this is a complicated universe.

0:13.5

In fact, it's not only more complicated than we imagine, it's weirder and messier than we can

0:19.1

imagine. Yet we still try to impose some sort of order on everything.

0:23.7

Take rock music, for example. I was in Paris once, and I walked into a megastor on the

0:28.3

Chez-Dle-Dle-A because, you know, that's what I do. I drag people into record stores while I'm on

0:32.9

my vacation. Anyway, this particular store had individual sections for what seemed like every conceivable genre of rock and roll.

0:40.9

All these individual sounds and styles grouped and gathered into individual racks.

0:46.5

And at first I thought this was pretty cool and convenient, but then it really got confusing.

0:51.3

In which section would I find band X?

0:58.0

Why was 9-inch nails under under electronica instead of industrial? If there was a grunge section, where was Nirvana? Oh, they're over in the

1:03.6

mainstream rock rack. Who made that call? And should goth and death metal be on the same shelves,

1:09.3

or should we separate them because it might get ugly?

1:13.2

Anyway, this got me thinking, whatever happened to the word alternative music?

1:17.6

Does it still exist?

1:18.6

Should it still exist?

1:19.8

What's the difference between a major and an indie?

1:23.2

See what I mean?

1:24.3

See, the bottom line is that I can get very, very confusing for the average rock fan.

1:27.7

Let's see if we just can't sort of sort things out a bit.

1:30.9

So rock snobs, you take a break.

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