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Now & Then

Defining the State of the Union

Now & Then

Vox Media Podcast Network

News, Society & Culture, History, News Commentary

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 March 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

How do small and extreme groups take over the American political conversation? In this final installment of a three-part series on educating citizens, Heather and Joanne look at how reactionary movements utilize bullying tactics to wrest control from the majority. Heather and Joanne offer a comparison between the path to secession at the start of the Civil War, the rise of American Nazi-sympathizing groups in the 1930s, and the current reactionary movements around COVID-19 protocols and the education system.  Join CAFE Insider to listen to “Backstage,” where Heather and Joanne chat each week about the anecdotes and ideas that formed the episode. Head to: cafe.com/history For more historical analysis of current events, sign up for the free weekly CAFE Brief newsletter, featuring Time Machine, a weekly article that dives into an historical event inspired by each episode of Now & Then: cafe.com/brief For references & supplemental materials, head to: cafe.com/now-and-then/defining-the-state-of-the-union Now & Then is presented by CAFE and the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:34.4

that's just because I'm a bit of a homebody and I love a 5th. But I think it's just the

0:39.1

holiday period. It's just for me, it's the most romantic period. And I think anyone who's

0:44.6

listened to my records will know that I'm quite a big fan of romance.

0:48.4

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0:58.7

From Cafe and the Vox Media Podcast Network, this is now and then.

1:06.2

I'm Heather Cox Richardson, and I'm Joanne Freeman. Today we're going to be talking about a topic

1:12.1

that I suppose won't be much of a surprise to people, although its context has changed.

1:18.2

Heather, when you and I were along with the now and then team, we're pondering what we

1:22.6

were going to be talking about for this episode. Of course, we thought state of the union

1:26.5

addresses, and we thought about the fact that President Biden's address was going to

1:30.7

be coming up on March 1st, and we thought it wouldn't be great to offer context on what

1:35.8

these addresses are and what they mean and how they've been shaped over time and what

1:40.6

the impact has been, and to really talk about what state of the union addresses mean.

1:45.4

Now we're recording this still before the state of the union address. However, after

1:51.4

Russia has invaded Ukraine and after President Biden has made a public statement about that

1:58.2

invasion. So we are at a kind of middle moment here. We still don't know necessarily what's

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