It's the Brian Lairn on WNYC.

Good morning again, everyone.

Coming up later this hour, we're going to talk to Mayor Alex

Ron Mammatani's brand, newly installed, or at least named,

because they're not in office yet.

First Deputy Mayor, Dean Fulahan, and he's going to be really interesting to have a conversation

with because he's been at this for a long time.

He was a first deputy mayor and a budget director in the DeBlasio administration.

He was considered central to getting de Blasio's number

one expensive priority through Albany back in 2014 that became so popular, universal pre-K,

and de Blasio wanted a little tax hike on the wealthy to get that done, just like Mamdani wants a little

tax hike on the wealthy now to get universal child care done, maybe the next step in that same

arc of taking care of New York City's kids. They wound up being able to do it without a tax hike

in 2014. So we're going to draw on that history and talk to the

incoming first deputy mayor, Dean Fulahan, about what they might do now and how he might

draw on his experience and apply it to the Mamdani Hockel era from what was the de Blasio Cuomo era.

So that's coming up.

Back with us now is Jelani Cobb, New Yorker staff writer and dean of the Columbia University

Graduate School of Journalism. He's got a new book that's a collection of some of his writings

called Three or More Is a Riot, notes on how he got here, 2012 to 2025.

So let's say from Barack Obama's reelection and how he used it to Donald Trump's

reelection and how he is using that today. Or we could say from the killing of Trayvon

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