From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story. I'm Manvien Rana.

In a historic landmark ruling, the Supreme Court has defined what it means in law to be a woman.

The Supreme Court has ruled unanimously.

The word woman in law refers to biological sex.

That rules against an interpretation by the Scottish government.

The transgender people with a gender recognition certificate are entitled to sex-based protections.

For those campaigning for women's rights, it was a momentous victory.

We thought we were going to see rights for women rolled back.

And today, the judges have said, what we always believe to be the case, that women are protected by their biological sex, that sex is real and that women

can now feel safe that services and spaces designated for women are for women.

For women rights are human rights, this isn't old and yet. For trans women's life. This is an old and yet.

For trans women, it was a setback.

I find it very difficult to enjoy existence in this society because I'm always battling with what will someone else think of me and where I'm going and who I am.

What exists? What will someone else think of me and where I'm going and who I am? What exactly does the Supreme Court's decision mean?

What will change?

And how did the courts come to be debating what it means to be a woman?

The story today.

Legally, a woman. The story today, legally a woman.

Helen, would you mind just starting by introducing yourself to our listeners?

I'm Helen Joyce. I work at a human rights charity called Sex Matters. We campaigned for clarity

on sex in law and everyday life. And I'm also an author and journalist.

And in 2021, a book I wrote called Trans when Ideology Meets Reality Came Out.

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