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Deadline: White House

"Defiance as a weapon”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Washington Dc, Msnbc, Politics, News, Government, Versant, Ms Now, Daily News, The White House, Nicolle Wallace

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Trump’s FCC escalated its beef with ABC today, this time ordering a review of the broadcaster’s license.

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0:00.0

You know that sometimes you wake up in the morning and the first lady puts out a statement demanding you be fired from your job?

0:12.6

We've all been there, right?

0:14.7

I agree that hateful and violent rhetoric is something we should reject.

0:19.1

I do, and I think a great place to start to dial that

0:21.9

back would be to have a conversation with your husband about it because, by the way.

0:32.9

Hi again, everybody. It's now 5 o'clock in New York. Defiant Jimmy Kimmel last night,

0:36.8

after both Donald and Melania Trump called for the comedian to be fired over a joke he made on his show

0:43.2

days before the White House correspondent's dinner, a joke that was about nothing more than Donald

0:48.3

Trump's age and the strength, perhaps, of his relationship. The Trump's, however, attempted to blame that joke told on Thursday by Jimmy Kimmel for the

0:58.6

violence that erupted at the dinner Saturday, something which Kimmel flatly rejects.

1:03.3

Watch.

1:04.9

It was a very light roast joke about the fact that he's almost 80 and she's younger than I am.

1:09.7

It was not by any stretch of the definition a call to assassination,

1:15.0

and they know that.

1:16.0

I've been very vocal for many years speaking out against gun violence in particular.

1:22.1

It is, though, the second time that the comedian has been forced to defend himself and stand up against the efforts

1:30.0

by Donald Trump to have him fired from his job. Because Donald Trump's worst fear seems to be

1:35.7

someone who uses humor to show just how small-minded he can be. Well, this type of defiance

1:42.6

is newsworthy because it is rare. It's also a powerful

1:46.1

tool when deployed against a bully like Donald Trump, especially during this second term as

1:52.1

president. It's something only a few individuals have been brave enough to deploy as a tactic,

1:58.5

and that's why we cover them here. We saw it in the people,

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