I remember when I testified before the Senate,

Senator Cory Booker came up to me before.

He sits down, he says, hey, I played football at Stanford. I'm in full of grants. You know, this is crazy. I'm an athlete. I know what you're talking about here. And then gets on the other side of the table and starts grilling me. These people are weak, need, morally bankrupt, spineless cowards is what they are. they are. That's who we're being governed by.

And whether that's our government or corporate America or academia, even seemingly our spiritual

leaders, that's the consensus. And so I've learned a whole lot. I think we have a lot of people

who like to complain. We have a lot of talking heads, people on, again, social

media, Twitter, on both sides of the aisle who aren't actually willing to do anything about it,

which is frustrating. Riley Gaines is an outstanding athlete and one of the most prominent

advocates today for fairness in women's sports. Born and raised in Tennessee, Riley rose

through the world of competitive swimming and excelled on the University of Kentucky's swimming team, earning numerous titles and SEC awards.

Riley's journey took an unexpected turn when she found herself competing against Leah Thomas, a male swimmer on the University of Pennsylvania's women's team.

Riley's advocacy for the protection of female locker rooms and fairness in women's sports sparked a national debate around gender identity and its dangerous implications. Today, through her eponymous center at the

Leadership Institute, Riley travels around the country to fight for the maintenance of title-line

policies and the protection of single-sex spaces. Her book, Swimming Against the Current,

fighting for common sense in a world that's lost its mind, touches on the very nature

of truth and the emergence of a fourth wave of feminism.

In today's episode, we discuss Riley's swim career,

her experience competing against Leah Thomas,

and the consequences of her speaking out.

We also dive deep into her advocacy work

with legislative bodies and the potential legal fallout

for women across America.

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