Defaulting on debt isn't the only way to scare investors
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🗓️ 2 June 2025
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As the GOP tax and spending bill moves through Congress, questions about the U.S. debt have not gone away. Over the weekend, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the U.S. would never default on its debt. But the U.S. doesn't have to actually default in order to lose the confidence of investors, who would in turn charge the U.S. more to borrow. Plus: Why Gen X is finding it harder to save for retirement.
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| 0:00.0 | defaulting on debt is not the only way to scare investors from Marketplace. |
| 0:08.0 | I'm Sabree Beneshore in for David Brancaccio. |
| 0:10.0 | As the tax and spending bill continues to wind its way through Congress, questions about the U.S. debt have not gone away. |
| 0:17.0 | Over the weekend, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said the U.S. would never default on |
| 0:22.3 | its debt. But the U.S. doesn't have to actually default in order to lose the confidence of investors, |
| 0:27.5 | who would, by the way, in turn, charge the U.S. more to borrow. Julia Cornado is founder of |
| 0:32.9 | macro policy perspectives and a professor at the University of Texas, Austin. It's true that the U.S. can always pay the Treasury debt that it owes. |
| 0:42.1 | It has a printing press. It can create money. |
| 0:45.4 | The question really is around what will the value of those dollars be when you get them back? |
| 0:51.8 | There's really no fiscal discipline, no end in sight to large and rising |
| 0:55.8 | deficits that the U.S. is running. And there's also a lot of sort of breakdown in rule of law |
| 1:03.3 | and transparency and just the rising risk of the U.S. as a counterparty. So they're doing things like |
| 1:10.0 | threatening to tax treasury interest, |
| 1:13.6 | which is a form of default. It's a form of saying, I'm not going to give you back what you |
| 1:19.0 | expected to get back when you bought this treasury security. If the U.S. were to just print money |
| 1:25.6 | to pay its debts, what's the problem with that? Well, if you do too much |
| 1:31.3 | of that, that can become inflationary. And you also run the risk of losing the confidence of people |
| 1:39.3 | who buy treasury securities and they may choose to sell them. And that would put upward pressure |
| 1:46.7 | on bond yields and downward pressure on your currency. So you could just lose the confidence |
| 1:53.0 | that people have in holding dollars. So it's a very risky strategy. It's a temptation that many |
| 2:00.6 | governments have succumbed to. |
| 2:02.6 | Sometimes we do that effectively during crises. |
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