I think you need a cooling period to really filter out the builders and the long-term players

versus the short-term sociopaths who've kind of come in and started running the space in various ways.

I think those cool-off periods are just crucial for the market in the long term.

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What's going on, guys? It is Friday, December 24th, and we are back with another episode of the end-of-year extravaganza.

Now, it is undeniable that NFTs were a dominant story this year in the crypto industry. Whether they actually can lead to big picture power ships is, I think, a question for 2022. Certainly, there

are many who believe they can. And as part of this whole NFT movement, a variety of new voices

sprung to the top of the scene, folks who got in deep with

different communities and created spaces and forums for their peers to congregate to discuss.

One of those is Dees, DeesFi on Twitter, who hosts regular Twitter spaces, turns them into

podcasts, and generally has been a super, super engaged NFT community member.

On this episode, we get a sense of how he got into this space, what he thinks of the projects

that launched this year, and what he thinks is going to happen with NFTs in the year to come.

Let's jump into the conversation.

All right, welcome back to the breakdown, De's. It is great to have you here. Welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me, man. We've been talking for a while. It's nice to finally get to sit down and talk to you for a bit.

I know. And you are, I think, a big proponent of talking, thinking, learning, sharing out loud.

It's certainly one of your hallmark.

So excited to have you give you this different kind of platform to explore.

Some of the things that, you know, made 21, what a crazy year that it was and maybe some

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