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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

DeepSeek – How China’s A.I. surprise stunned Silicon Valley

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

China’s gamechanging A.I. “DeepSeek” came out of nowhere to grab headlines and in turn rock financial markets. The release of the free app triggered a sharp reaction, wiping out a trillion dollars in value from major U.S. based A.I. firms. – and raising questions over America’s dominance in the realm of artificial intelligence. Is this a sign of an industry in flux, or the beginning of a major shift? Alex von Tunzelmann is joined by tech journalist Karen Hao to examine the implications of DeepSeek’s rise. • Go to proton.me/thebunker to receive a 38% discount on Proton Mail • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast  Written and presented by Alex von Tunzelmann. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editors: Robin Leeburn. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Instagram | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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