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Wall Street Breakfast

DeepSeek deep sixes stocks

Wall Street Breakfast

Seeking Alpha

Business News, News, Business, Investing

4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

AI stocks got slammed as the China app challenged cost and demand assumptions. (0:15) Bond yields plunge and cash moves to safety. (4:08) Analysts see buying opportunity. (5:01)

Show Notes
What is DeepSeek?
The Nvidia selloff in context
Suddenly the Dow looks good again

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0:00.0

Welcome to Seeking Alpha's Wall Street Lunch, our afternoon update on today's market action, news, and analysis.

0:10.0

Good afternoon. Today is Monday, January 27th, and I'm your host, Kim Khan. Our top story so far. DeepSeek dropped a depth charge into Wall Street's waters today, but it didn't completely deep-six the dip buyers. Okay, I got past that. In a nutshell, hype around China's

0:25.5

recently introduced DeepSeek R1's self-learning AI model threatened many

0:29.5

investor assumptions about the AI equity trade. Numerous strategist Charlie

0:34.1

McGillacott says, deepek is a shock disruption agent,

0:38.3

quote, where the sudden introduction of a cheap yet completely viable AI tool,

0:42.3

which is self-guiding its own training and built by a reinforcement learning without standard controls,

0:48.3

magnitude's lower operational costs not requiring the massive semiconductor spend of the newest and most expensive chips,

0:55.0

is threatening the prior assumptions on the AI ecosystem with massive implications on pricing power,

1:00.0

CAP-X spending trends, and market valuations on the current hierarchy of leadership in the space.

1:07.0

Seeking Alpha Tech editor Chris Siotia has more analysis here, including whether Deep Seeks

1:12.3

claim that it costs less than $6 million to develop can be trusted.

1:16.5

Artificial intelligence-linked stocks dropped sharply this morning, led by Nvidia, Broadcom,

1:22.7

Microsoft, and the like. They're all down at least 6% Nvidia and Broadcom are down 11 and 12% respectively.

1:29.2

There's this concern that the model from this Chinese

1:34.0

AI lab Deepseek that was released over the past few weeks

1:38.3

R1 could significantly cut AI computing costs

1:43.0

drastically. In the research paper, DeepSeek said its training costs

1:48.3

were $5.6 million, whereas OpenAI's last model costs at least $100 million. So that's what

1:57.7

you're starting to see here, even if there are concerns about that $5.6 million number, whether that's actually true or not.

2:04.3

Personally, I think this is a little bit of a buying opportunity because, like I said, there is a concern about whether that $5.6 million number is actually true.

2:13.3

And if you actually read the research paper, DeepSeek talks about how it's a bunch of costs excluding several different things, including inferencing and a couple other things that are related to it.

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