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DeepSeek and AI’s Efficiency Era

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🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

The tech battle between China and the U.S. is heating up – one player just showed the world that Ai can be done well with a lot less. (00:14) Tim Beyers and Dylan Lewis discuss: - The Chinese app that is shaking up the AI landscape – DeepSeek – and how its leaner, less resource-intensive approach will affect artificial intelligence technology. - Why software prowess and efficiency will be the major themes for AI in 2025. - What to focus on when the affected big tech companies – Apple, Microsoft, Meta, ASML – report earnings this week. (19:15) Senior Fool Analyst David Meier, interviews John Zahurancik Fluence Energy’s President of the Americas, about the utilities side of the renewables market. Companies discussed: MSFT, NVDA, AAPL, ASML, FLNC Host: Dylan Lewis Guests: Tim Beyers, David Meier, John Zahurancik Engineers: Rick Engdahl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Deep Seek enters the chat.

0:06.7

Motleyful money starts now.

0:13.7

I'm Dylan Lewis, and I'm joined over the airwaves by Motleyful analyst Tim Byers.

0:17.5

Tim, thanks for joining me on what has proven to be a tech-filled Monday.

0:23.2

Yeah. Not caffeinated, but I'm very ready to go.

0:28.6

Yeah, some energy, some headlines, maybe getting your attention and bringing some of that energy.

0:32.6

The tech battle between China and the United States continues to heat up. Over the past week,

0:38.6

AI app, DeepSeek,

0:44.3

has topped App Store charts as one of the most downloaded apps, period. And its rise is leading to some pretty serious questions about the resources and investment in AI, in particular

0:50.1

from American publicly traded firms. We are seeing the market process that very much in real

0:54.6

time today, Tim. Yeah, and part of the issue is the freak out that China has essentially

1:01.5

developed an AI model for orders of magnitude less than the dominant models here in the

1:08.3

United States. So you have Open AI, Anthropics Claude,

1:11.8

perplexity, all of these others. We're built with just, I mean, we have spent hundreds

1:16.8

upon hundreds of billions of dollars, and we are still spending hundreds and hundreds of billions

1:20.7

of dollars building out AI models. We have presumed here in the United States, the predominant narrative is these are resource intensive.

1:30.7

They take a lot of capital to build out. They consume unbelievable amounts of energy.

1:37.1

And so we have said, look, we have to invest. We have to invest big. It is here in the United States,

1:43.5

AI has been a go big or go home story. And then China

1:47.6

came along with Deepseek and the Chinese entrepreneurs had introduced this and said, actually,

1:52.9

not so fast. We can make this for a fraction of what you're saying it is. Now, I don't know if you should believe their exact

2:03.3

number, Dylan. I think they said something like six million, but I don't think it matters. I don't

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