It's really a challenge. I mean it's a whole countercultural way of living. I mean someone told me once Heather

people are not the enemy. Satan is actually the enemy. So when you're with people like elevate your thinking to be like I'm not battling you, we're actually

battling the kingdom of the air who was at work and those who are disobedient.

Ephesians too, which is my other favorite passage of scripture.

Dr Heather Holloman joins us today. is my other favorite passage of scripture.

Dr Heather Holloman joins us today on Focus on the Family with Jim Bailey.

I'm John Fuller.

John, we get a lot of response here at Focus around communication.

You know, when you look at the bottom line of a lot of

marital conflict it comes down to poor communication. Sometimes we do it on purpose

pushing each other's buttons. No, and you do that? I got to confess it.

Gene will say, you're very good at that.

But these things we do and it can be communication with a friend, not just a spouse, or family members, your children.

And there is so much we need to learn from scripture.

In Colossians, chapter 4,

verse Paul writes,

let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how

you ought to answer each person.

Isn't that great?

That is a wonderful reminder.

I don't think we always are mindful of that especially in certain cultural

context or social media context seems like that guidance from the Lord goes out the

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