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Hello and welcome to another episode of Deep State Radio. I'm your host David Rothkopf coming to you from New York City, also in New York City, our regular pal.

And co-host here is Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School. How are you doing, Ryan?

We will, David, thanks.

And our other regular this time of the week. Dr. Kavita Patel, how are you doing? Kavita in Washington?

I mean, a little bit worse than I thought the start of 2021 would go, but we're hoping starting now it's on an upswing.

Well, you know, sometimes your years start a few weeks into the year.

There's kind of like overhang, you know?

Also in Washington, another friend, Karen Finney, who is the T right distinguished fellow at the GW School of Media and Public Affairs.

She is also a consultant. You know her probably as spokesperson for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign, but she also was a senior advisor to Stacey Abrams, which is some a badge of honor.

You can wear especially this week. How are you, Karen?

I'm the same kind of, I think we're, I said recovering, you know, it's, I think that's a lot to absorb and feeling, you know, yesterday went from a few hours of excitement about Georgia to, oh my god, what's happening?

So, yeah, we'll come back to that because yesterday was as brutal as they come.

And finally, we're joined by Rick Hassan, who's the Chancellor's Professor of Law and Political Science at the University of California Irvine.

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