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The big idea, man, all this Tulsi, Gabbard, Pam Bondi, Obama stuff. Here's the big idea I want everyone to be thinking about it because we need to be processing this.

I think we're at a moment. If President Trump got assassinated, if he would have died, we would have a very different country right now.

Can't go back from that.

Shots fired.

Your candidate dies.

In the same way, I think this whole President Obama DOJ charges are, they're going to change our country forever.

Even if Obama doesn't get convicted, you know, and if he does get convicted, it's like

the scenario, okay, Trump got assassinated, he's gone, he's no, you know, that same thing would happen.

I think Obama got convicted. It'd be totally, you can't walk back from that totally different country. I disagree. You disagree? I disagree. Well, well. And you know why? Why? Because I thought that about America before 2020. I said, there's no way that the government is going to be able to tell people that they can't go to work and can't go to church.

Not all these gun-toting Americans, and lo and behold,

they folded. Foded like a wet blinking. I was wrong. And so, and we watched Trump from his

political opponents over years get targeted.

Right?

And so I don't know.

I think in this case,

I feel a lot different because if we actually see justice served at his highest level,

I think it's going to send ripples through everything else to say,

I guess we have to button up justice everywhere.

Yeah.

And if they actually have a case that they can prove and they make their case publicly,

I think that has some radical implications. And I don't think it's going to be a correct. All right. I got Michael Waller. Yes. And he is going to sort this out. He's going to answer all these questions. Mike, if you're smart, you're with me on this. And he's going to say which one of you guys is right. Michael Waller's a senior analyst for strategy at the center for security policy specializing in foreign propaganda, political and psychological warfare. Watch it. He specializes in psychological warfare. Yeah, he knows the answer to that question. And subversion. So be really careful. We don't know if he's a sci-up or not, but we're going to talk to him on the show. Former Anberg Professor at Institute of World Politics.

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