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Overheard at National Geographic

Deep Inside the First Wilderness

Overheard at National Geographic

National Geographic

Science, Society & Culture

4.510.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2021

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

On assignment in the canyons of the Gila Wilderness, Nat Geo photographer Katie Orlinsky has a fireside chat with Overheard host Peter Gwin about telling stories through pictures. She chronicles how she found her way—from growing up in New York City to covering workers rights in rural Mexico and the world’s most grueling dogsled race in Alaska. For more information on this episode, visit nationalgeographic.com/overheard. Want more? Some of Katie's picture from this assignment can be seen on National Geographic's Instagram page, In her work on the Yukon Quest dog sled race, you can see what it looks like to cross 1,000 miles of Alaska on dog power. On Katie’s personal website, you can see more images, including from her time in Juárez. Also explore: And magazine subscribers can see Katie’s photos in our recent story about thawing permafrost. Sometimes that thaw creates pockets of methane under frozen lakes that scientists test by setting on fire. That story was also featured in our podcast episode about how beavers are changing the Arctic. If you like what you hear and want to support more content like this, please consider a National Geographic subscription. Go to natgeo.com/exploremore to subscribe today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What are you doing, Katie?

0:04.4

Oh, I'm just heading over to this other rock to get the clearest shot of this amazing

0:10.0

landscape.

0:11.0

So this other rock that's like on the edge of a cliff, just she says.

0:16.4

Just another rock that has about a 955 foot drop to the river in the middle of nowhere.

0:28.0

Next November 2020, and I'm in a remote part of New Mexico called the Hilo Wilderness,

0:33.6

and I'm standing on a cliff with producer Brian Gutierrez and National Geographic photographer

0:38.9

Katie Orlinski, who's on assignment for an upcoming magazine story.

0:43.4

We rode horses for a few hours this morning winding through forests of enormous ponderosa

0:48.2

pine trees to reach this spot.

0:50.0

It's a place our guide calls the Grand Canyon of the Hila.

0:54.4

And that's just what it looks like.

0:56.6

Mystic red, yellow and white bands of rock towering over a broad flat valley.

1:01.2

We're the only people here.

1:03.6

In fact, we haven't seen any other human beings for a week.

1:07.3

The only sound is a light wind rustling the pine needles.

1:11.6

We watch a hot gliding in the void below us.

1:14.0

It's shadow moving across the valley floor.

1:16.5

It's really a spectacular view.

1:18.6

You're going to have to buy the magazine to see this.

1:22.3

I'll come to New Mexico.

1:24.8

I'll come to New Mexico, actually.

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