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10% Happier with Dan Harris

Deep Genealogy | Spring Washam

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.612.9K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2023

⏱️ 83 minutes

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So many people are interested in their family tree. What kind of lives did our ancestors lead and what do their stories say about us? Today's guest, Spring Washam, asks us to reckon with the people who have come before us in order to fully understand who we are and why we do the things we do.


Washam is a well-known teacher, author, and visionary leader based in Oakland, California. She is the author of A Fierce Heart: Finding Strength, Courage and Wisdom in Any Moment and her newest book, The Spirit of Harriet Tubman: Awakening from the Underground. Spring is considered a pioneer in bringing mindfulness-based meditation practices to diverse communities. She is one of the founding teachers at the East Bay Meditation Center, located in downtown Oakland, CA and has practiced and studied Buddhist philosophy in both the Theravada and Tibetan schools of Buddhism since 1999.


In this episode we talk about:

  • How Spring came to write about Harriet Tubman's life
  • Her work with plant medicine and the shamanic traditions
  • The dream and the "conversations" Spring had with Tubman
  • Why we are all so interested in ancestry
  • How we can deepen our relationship with our ancestors 
  • Family Constellation Therapy as a modality for doing ancestry work 
  • Spring's own family history
  • Why she is still processing the experience of writing her book about Harriet Tubman 
  • What she means by the "inner underground railroad" and how it is alive today
  • And, how, in the inner underground railroad, freedom equates to nirvana 


Content Warning: mentions of suicide


Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast-episode/spring-washam-556

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

0:10.0

Hello, everybody. We've got a good one for you today. I feel like this is one of those

0:23.4

episodes that's going to generate quite a reaction. So many of us are interested in our

0:29.0

family tree. We do 23 in me or ancestry.com. We look at black and white photos and quiz

0:34.8

our older relatives about the four bears. We never had a chance to meet. We want to know

0:39.4

what are our roots? What kind of lives did the people who came before us lead? And what

0:44.8

does it all say about us? Today, we're going to take this very natural human impulse to

0:51.1

a deeper and for some of you much stranger place before I dive into the basic information

0:58.1

about this episode. Let me just say a word here about magic. I, as I think you all probably

1:03.7

know, am naturally a skeptical person. I'm a journalist and agnostic raised by scientists,

1:09.1

blah, blah, blah. But I'm also a Buddhist, not in the sense that I pound a table and declare

1:13.8

that things like enlightenment or rebirth are absolutely true. I don't have any evidence

1:18.5

for either of those things. But instead in the sense that I practice quite a bit of Buddhist

1:23.0

meditation and have found that meditation and many of the other techniques that the Buddhists

1:27.8

recommend for doing life better really do work for me. And for me, at least it doesn't

1:33.4

hurt that modern researchers have lent a sheen of scientific validity to many of these

1:37.9

practices, all of which leaves me in a funny position vis-a-vis some of the more out there

1:43.3

claims that you can find in Buddhism, things like meditation giving you superpowers or

1:49.2

the existence of other realms populated by deities. The good news here is that the Buddha himself

1:54.9

explicitly said that you should not take anything he said at face value. You should check

2:00.9

it out for yourself, verify it through your own experience. Still, it's always jarring

2:06.3

for me when I realize that my teachers, people I know well and I'm personally very close

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