Deep Dive with Raymond Ansotegui on Great Coaching

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

Society & Culture

4.8 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Most people run from danger. Raymond Ansotegui spent a decade running toward it. In the final episode of our Great Coaches series, Kelly talks with a retired rodeo bullfighter about what happens when your job is to step between a thrown rider and an animal the size of a car. Through stories about learning to read personality in a bucking bull, finding connection in the most chaotic moments and understanding when getting closer is actually safer than staying back, Raymond reveals lessons that reach far beyond the arena. This conversation explores commitment, presence and the strange grace that emerges when you stop trying to control everything and just learn to move with what's in front of you—whether that's a 1,800-pound bull, an addiction or a father slipping away to Alzheimer's. Raymond's organization is petriCORE Compass: https://petricorecompass.com/ The aversion therapy program Raymond mentioned is the Schick Shadel Hospital which stopped providing behavioral healthcare services as of June 30, 2022. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:41.0	Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders.
0:46.5	I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today in the sixth and final episode of our great coaches series,
0:52.8	I'm wondering what it takes to help someone learn to face fear every day.
0:57.3	I'm joined by Raymond Ansodegi, former rodeo bullfighter from Montana, who spent a decade protecting bull riders from 1,800 pound animals, and who now
1:04.8	coaches others through some of life's biggest challenges. What makes Raymond's story fascinating isn't just the physical
1:11.9	courage it required, which was significant, but it's the mental game he had to master,
1:16.9	the relationships with mentors who believed in him enough to put their reputations on the line,
1:21.7	and how the lessons from those years translate into his experience coaching today.
1:30.1	Raymond discovered that the same principles that kept him safe in the arena, breathe, commit, get close, and slow down are exactly what we
1:37.3	need when facing just about any obstacle in life. His story is really about the connections that
1:42.5	happen without words, between people and between man and bull.
1:47.6	Here's my conversation with Raymond and Sotaghi.
1:54.0	So this is going to be a fun conversation.
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