Deep Dive with Jonathan Bijur on Creative Freedom
Kelly Corrigan Wonders
Kelly Corrigan Show
4.9 • 3.3K Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders. |
| 0:10.4 | I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today I'm wondering what happens when you build a place where kids get to be in charge. |
| 0:15.9 | This is our sixth episode in our Wired to Create series made possible by a grant from the Walton family |
| 0:22.5 | foundation today i'm talking with jonathan bjeure educator maker executive director of rediscover center |
| 0:30.0 | in los angeles a remarkable place where kids get access to recycled industrial materials |
| 0:36.3 | a wall full of tools, and something more rare |
| 0:39.8 | than either of those, time and space to figure it out for themselves. Jonathan has spent over 20 |
| 0:47.1 | years working at the intersection of art, engineering, and education, including a stint at the |
| 0:53.0 | MIT Museum running programs that gave kids solar panels |
| 0:56.4 | and said, go make something with these. He holds a master's of library science and has been running |
| 1:02.0 | the show at Rediscover Center since 2014. He's also a passionate advocate for something that might be |
| 1:09.5 | the most countercultural idea in education right now, |
| 1:13.2 | that children learn more when adults get out of the way. Here's my conversation with Jonathan Bejure. |
| 1:23.1 | Hi, Jonathan. Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders. Thanks for saying yes and taking time away from all of your awesome work to talk to us. |
| 1:32.1 | Thank you. |
| 1:32.8 | Wonderful to be here. |
| 1:34.6 | The reason I know about you is because I was at my friend's house in L.A. |
| 1:39.0 | And in their living room, they have a cork chair that is made of all corks. And their daughter made it. And I said, |
| 1:48.3 | what is this? It could literally have been something that was sold through like a high end art |
| 1:54.1 | dealer. It is so cool and special and functional. Like you can literally sit at it and it has its own little desktop, like the old-fashioned |
| 2:02.5 | thing where you can bring the arm down and there's like a writing surface there. |
| 2:06.5 | And they said, Liza made it. |
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