Deep Dive with Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham on Asking Better Questions

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

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🗓️ 24 March 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham once dyed her hair red, said goodbye to her husband, and went undercover in a nursing home to expose the neglect that no one else was willing to see—much less work to change. That's who she is. She grew up watching her parents navigate an impossible road for her disabled sister — no roadmap, no safety net, no one coming to help — and she has never forgotten what it feels like to be out there alone fighting a system that isn't built for you. She went on to become a two-term governor who moved New Mexico from 50th in childhood poverty to 17th, made it the first state in the nation to offer universal childcare, and launched free college for every resident. Those wins matter enormously but what Kelly really wanted to dig into was how she got there— and what she found was a leader who owns her impatience like a superpower and knows that asking the right question can unlock everything. This episode has been made possible by a grant from Ingeborg Initiatives, a social impact platform dedicated to improving maternal health and making it easier to raise a family. To learn more, please visit: ingeborginitiatives.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:58.9	Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders. I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today I'm wondering, what turns a person into someone who just
1:05.0	refuses to quit?
1:06.8	My guest is the two-term governor of New Mexico, Michelle Lujan Grisham.
1:11.7	She is the fourth guest in our March series Women of Consequence,
1:16.2	made possible by a grant from Ingaborg initiatives.
1:19.6	She grew up watching her parents fight like hell for her disabled sister,
1:23.9	with no roadmap and no safety net,
1:26.0	and then became the governor who made New Mexico the first
1:30.4	state in the nation to offer universal child care. She also went undercover in a nursing home
1:37.9	to expose neglect that nobody wanted to see, much less work to change. Today, we talk about what it takes to declare
1:45.9	something done before you have all the answers and why the most powerful move in any tough
1:52.2	negotiation is finding a better question. Here's my conversation with Governor Michelle
1:58.0	Lujan Grisham.
2:09.5	I want to spend my time with you deconstructing this deeply significant win that you've had,
2:15.1	which is that New Mexico is the first state in the nation to have universal child care.
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