Deep Dive with Dr. Matt Walker, W. Kamau Bell and Maya Shankar on Sleep

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

Society & Culture

4.9 • 3.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2026

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Quick afternoon nap? Gummies before bed? Hitting snooze? Here’s a thorough look at how to get our sleep right with one of the world’s most informed sleep experts: Dr. Matthew Walker. Why? Sleep is our super power. Put less positively, poor sleep maps terribly closely to poor mental health. Joining me for the conversation are previous guests and friends of the show cognitive scientist and podcaster Maya Shankar, and comedian/producer W Kamau Bell. (Previously aired) Many thanks to COOP for making the best pillows and sheets to help us get a really solid night’s sleep and for sponsoring this episode. You can watch this conversation anytime at www.pbs.org/kelly or stream on the PBS app. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:37.4	Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders. I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today I'm wondering about sleep.
0:42.6	I think we know that it plays a starring role in our mental health. What I really wanted to discuss
0:49.3	were the tricks to a consistent sleep pattern. My conversation partners on the subject are Dr. Matthew Walker.
0:57.0	He teaches neuroscience and psychology at UC Berkeley. He also wrote a book called Why We Sleep,
1:02.3	and is the founder and director of the Center for Human Sleep Science. Dr. Maya Shankar is a
1:09.7	cognitive scientist who has been a previous guest on Tell Me More and
1:14.0	Kelly Corrigan wonders. She was the advisor to the Obama White House on behavioral science.
1:19.5	She's also the creator, producer, and host of a podcast called A Slight Change of Plans
1:23.9	on which I was a guest talking about the empty nest experience.
1:29.2	And then my final guest is W. Camel Bell. He's also a friend of the show. He's been on
1:34.6	Tell Me More and Kelly Corrigan Wonders. He's a stand-up comedian, a director, producer, and a dad.
1:40.4	For seven seasons, he was the host of the five-time Emmy Award-winning CNN docu-series,
1:46.6	The United Shades of America. We sat down on the set of my PBS show, Tell Me More,
1:52.4	to talk about sleep and the major role it plays in our well-being.
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