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for more welcome to kelly corgan wonders i'm kellyan, and today I'm wondering why every school has a library, but almost none of them have a space where kids can build and tinker and fail without judgment. This is the eighth episode in our Wired to Create series, which was made possible by a grant from the Walton Family Foundation. My guest is Aditya

Vishwanat. He is a learning scientist, a Stanford PhD, and a co-founder of MakerGat, a non-profit,

which now operates over 10,000 maker spaces across India and has helped over a million children. As a kid, Aditya went to 15 different

schools and along the way became what is known in India as a topper, number one in his class,

and everyone knew it. He became so good at memorizing that he aced his exams without necessarily

understanding what he was being tested on.

But when he was 18, he started volunteering in rural schools, and for the first time, he could see

the system he'd been a part of and what it was missing. He spent the years since building something

different, spaces where kids are allowed to explore, to fail, and to discover that their

hands and their minds work best together. Here's my conversation with Aditya Vishwanat.

Will you give us a sense of your own schooling? I think you lived in 10 different cities and went to 15

different schools, something insane. A lot. I've lost count of how many, but I have jumped schools

many, many times. My dad had a job at a bank and his role was largely to open up new branches for the

same bank. And so we would keep moving from city to city. So you were a kid who was

good at school in a way. You ended up at Stanford getting a PhD. But before that, your reflection

after your K-12 education was that the thing that made you a great student is that you were really good

at memorizing things. Yeah. Including all the Pokemon characters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So actually... Can you tell? I don't know what Pokemon is? Because I said Pokemon instead of Pokemon. Forgive me. Did I just lose your respect? You didn't lose my respect, but there's going to be a lot of hate comments and wherever this video goes eventually. Pokemon, forgive me.

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