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We're old ladies yelling at clouds right now.

What fresh hell.

Laughing in the face of motherhood.

All my muffin is under my belly button.

With Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson.

When you weigh, you know, 90 pounds, they look pretty cute.

A podcast that solves today's parenting dilemmas so you don't have to.

I have never done anything with my eyebrows.

Hello, everyone and welcome to What Fresh Hell laughing in the face of motherhood. This is

Margaret. And this is Amy. And this week we're talking about why is this a thing let me tell you brace yourselves

settle in this episode is going to be 17 and a half hours long it's like the whole closet

that's overly full with sports equipment why are all of these things that they like in prepping

for this episode I got more and more angry I was like I didn't even remember that but now I'm

mad it's a thing I was getting side texts from family members too too, for this episode. Like, don't forget this. Like, make sure to have this one on. Yeah. Again, settle in. This is going to be a marathon. Like, get some snacks. Get a comfy seat because we're going to be here a while. First, I have a mailbag for you. But first, mailbag. Mailbag. It better be a short one.

Jessa on Facebook said, I listened to the safe spaces episode last weekend. Like, should we be safe

spaces for our kids? That's a good episode if you haven't listened to that one yet. And she says,

I want to say that Amy's description of shared dysregulation. In other words, like when your kid's cranky, you're cranky, when your kid is having a hard time, they want you to also have a hard time and they will try to, you know, give you the same mood they have. There's a name for that, she says. It's actually called negative attunement. She said it's like Misery loves company, but between a parent and a kid. So it's negative attunement. She said it's like misery loves company, but between a parent and a kid.

So it's negative attunement. Watch the space for heavy use of that term. Oh yes. Amy will be doing a

deep dive. Right. Next week, negative attunement. Normally I say don't come at Amy on her research,

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