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Hello, everyone.

Welcome to Murder Club. I'm Amy Archer. I'm your host. I'm here with Kyla. And we are back with a deep dive talking about everybody's favorite sociopath, Pam Hop. Hello, everybody. Hello, Amy. Good morning. Good morning. Well, this was a quick turnaround. We had 24 hours to get our research done. Yes, I'm very proud of us. Yeah. I listened to half of an audio book on 1.5, which was new. But I got used to it. I've heard people say, you're just kind of get used to it. And I did. I'm laying on my floor with a notebook.

That's hilarious.

I do want to say one thing.

I listened to Joel after his book came out, Joel Schwartz, the defense attorney.

After his book came out, he was on morbid.

He was on a lot.

Yeah.

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