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The First Degree

DEEP DIVE: MACKENZIE SHIRILLA

The First Degree

Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek

News, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.510.4K Ratings

🗓️ 28 May 2026

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Today we’re deep diving everything that the Netflix documentary The Crash missed about the Mackenzie Shirilla case. From scouting out LA modeling agencies while in the hospital, to jail house calls about Kim Kardashian, to selling feet pics, there is a LOT you don’t know about Mackenzie Shirilla and we are ready to discuss it all. 🎟 Catch up to FOUR bonus episodes per month plus full video episodes over on Patreon: patreon.com/thefirstdegree 📸 Instagram: instagram.com/thefirstdegree 🕺 TikTok: tiktok.com/@thefirstdegreee 👤 Facebook: facebook.com/thefirstdegree 📓 Substack: http://thefirstdegree.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

PIN

0:02.0

PIN

0:08.0

PICOMIN TILA

0:10.0

PICLEAN

0:12.0

TILA! Welcome to the deep dive for the difference between a conspiracy and the truth is six months.

0:32.9

It's me, Jack. I'm here with Lex. Happy Thursday. We're almost to the weekend. And we have got a jam-packed

0:39.7

episode for you today. We really do. We do. And this is by popular demand. We talked about this

0:49.5

a little bit last week, kind of off the cuff. We weren't planning on talking about it. I didn't

0:53.6

know that both of us had watched this documentary in the first place to even discuss it, but we are talking

1:00.4

about McKenzie, Shirilla, and the documentary, The Crash, and what you might have missed,

1:06.2

because Netflix omitted a few things on there.

1:12.0

Yeah.

1:19.4

And you and I have both been involved in documentaries, and it's like, I think it was part of the game.

1:29.6

You know, Netflix knew that her participation and the family's participation would make sure it would be a huge release and that it would, like, top out as one of the most watch things on Netflix. So I'm sure there were some conditions to her participation.

1:35.2

I was going to ask you. I was like, what do you? Because obviously we're going to get into what

1:38.8

they missed and omitted and, you know, the kind of laid things out a certain way to maybe make somebody

1:47.5

look a certain way or not. But yeah, is that your high-level thinking is that they agreed

1:55.3

under certain circumstances? Yeah, because I think what she probably said is I can't participate in

2:03.5

anything because I have an appeal pending. So I can't do anything that's going to fuck up my appeal.

2:07.9

So if you want me involved, my condition is that you can't put anything in there that'll really

2:14.7

mess with my appeal. And I don't think normally,

2:22.2

um, producers and production companies want to agree to those sorts of things. Like, if you've seen the Gilgo Beach killer show with Rex Hurman's family, they don't help them

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