DEEP DIVE: MACKENZIE SHIRILLA
The First Degree
Alexis Linkletter and Jac Vanek
4.5 • 10.4K Ratings
🗓️ 28 May 2026
⏱️ 44 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | PIN |
| 0:02.0 | PIN |
| 0:08.0 | PICOMIN TILA |
| 0:10.0 | PICLEAN |
| 0:12.0 | TILA! Welcome to the deep dive for the difference between a conspiracy and the truth is six months. |
| 0:32.9 | It's me, Jack. I'm here with Lex. Happy Thursday. We're almost to the weekend. And we have got a jam-packed |
| 0:39.7 | episode for you today. We really do. We do. And this is by popular demand. We talked about this |
| 0:49.5 | a little bit last week, kind of off the cuff. We weren't planning on talking about it. I didn't |
| 0:53.6 | know that both of us had watched this documentary in the first place to even discuss it, but we are talking |
| 1:00.4 | about McKenzie, Shirilla, and the documentary, The Crash, and what you might have missed, |
| 1:06.2 | because Netflix omitted a few things on there. |
| 1:12.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:19.4 | And you and I have both been involved in documentaries, and it's like, I think it was part of the game. |
| 1:29.6 | You know, Netflix knew that her participation and the family's participation would make sure it would be a huge release and that it would, like, top out as one of the most watch things on Netflix. So I'm sure there were some conditions to her participation. |
| 1:35.2 | I was going to ask you. I was like, what do you? Because obviously we're going to get into what |
| 1:38.8 | they missed and omitted and, you know, the kind of laid things out a certain way to maybe make somebody |
| 1:47.5 | look a certain way or not. But yeah, is that your high-level thinking is that they agreed |
| 1:55.3 | under certain circumstances? Yeah, because I think what she probably said is I can't participate in |
| 2:03.5 | anything because I have an appeal pending. So I can't do anything that's going to fuck up my appeal. |
| 2:07.9 | So if you want me involved, my condition is that you can't put anything in there that'll really |
| 2:14.7 | mess with my appeal. And I don't think normally, |
| 2:22.2 | um, producers and production companies want to agree to those sorts of things. Like, if you've seen the Gilgo Beach killer show with Rex Hurman's family, they don't help them |
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