Hello, everyone, and welcome to Fresh Take from What Fresh Hell Laughing in the Face of Motherhood.

This is Margaret. And this is Amy. Today we're talking to Kendra Adachi, better known as the lazy

genius. She is the host of the lazy genius podcast. She is the two-time New York Times best-selling

author of The Lazy Genius Way and The Lazy Genius Kitchen.

Kendra lives in North Carolina with her husband and three kids.

Today we'll be talking about what Kendra calls compassionate time management and her newest book, The Plan,

Manage Your Time, Like a Lazy Genius. Welcome, Kendra.

Thanks, y'all for having me. So good to see you. We're so excited. You are such a notable quotable on our podcast. I can't think of the number of times we've quoted you. People decide once. We've talked about that so much and we always throw it to you. But we say it so much, people think we said it. We're always like, no, that's a lazy genius. Decide once, but we do live

that way. That's amazing. I love it. I people think we said it. We're always like, no, that's a lazy genius. Decide once. But we do live that way.

That's amazing. I love it. I love it. Thank you. I'm so glad to be just like a quiet little voice hanging out with Decide Once. That one's sticky, isn't it? That's such a sticky principle. We love so much. It's such a good one. It's such a good, simple rule for life. This is one of my favorite topics day to day for better and worse, which is time management and productivity. I love trying new ways to be productive,

although a lot of them end up making me feel bad about myself. And Kendra, you point out in the book,

that there's a really good reason for that.

It's a really good reason. Yeah. Like, how many times have we read any sort of time management

book and we finished it and we were like, man, I feel good about myself. I feel so good about

myself right now. It just doesn't happen. Right. I'm already doing this.

Exactly. Well, part of the problem is that 93% of time management books are written by men. And men don't carry them into a load of the home. They don't have periods. And authors themselves typically don't have bosses. So if you are not dealing with a boss, a home to run and hormones, it's a lot easier to look ahead and go, what do I want my life to look like

in 20 years? And then reverse engineer that and have like this repetitive day all the time to

serve this invisible future that you have built up. And that is just not the reality for women, nor do I think it has to be the reality for everyone.

I just want there to be permission for people to not have greatness be the goal.

Greatness and optimization and mastery of your time is the goal that is set before us by the industry.

And I think maybe we need a different goal. Maybe that's part of the problem. It is that we have one

typical type of lifestyle and person speaking into time management, but also like maybe the system's a little wonky for most

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