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hello everyone and welcome to what fresh hell laughing in the face of Motherhood. This is Margaret. And today I am talking to

Francesca Royster. She is the author of a new memoir, Choosing Family, a memoir of queer motherhood

and Black Resistance. Her other books include Black Country Music, Listening for Revolutions,

sounding like a no-no, queer sounds, and eccentric arts in the

post-soul era, and becoming Cleopatra, the shifting image of an icon. She teaches English at

DePaul University in Chicago. Welcome, Francesca. Thank you so much, Margaret. I'm so glad to be here.

I'm really excited. I really, really enjoyed this book.

So you have this vast range of scholarship behind you where you've written, I'm sure, lectured, taught on all of these different issues.

And now you have a memoir on motherhood. So talk to me a little bit about how you got to this place.

Yeah, you know, absolutely. I have wanted to write a memoir for a long time before I became a mother

and was really interested in writing about my family's history in Chicago. So that was

something that I had done little bits and pieces of. I started making a film

about Bronzeville and my great-grandmother's house. But then once I became a mom, the intensity of it

and the kind of just the desire to connect with other people as it was happening got me writing about it. And I have this

wonderful writers group where everyone is about my age or a little bit older. And they all have

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