That person did forgot my fries at Burger King. They're a narcissist.

What fresh hell.

Laughing in the face of motherhood.

My goodness. I don't know why you always complain about how hard it is to raise kids.

With Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson.

I am also a crazy maker to people because I am a chaos Muppet.

A podcast that solves today's parenting dilemmas so you don't have to.

This is just so easy for you, isn't it?

Hey, everybody, welcome to what fresh hell laughing in the face of motherhood.

This is Amy.

And this is Margaret.

And today we are talking about

crazy makers. Oh, this is a throwback for me, Crazymakers. I first learned about these as a very

young person. And so I'm circling back again from a different perspective. I look forward to this.

The term Crazy Maker was coined by Julia Cameron in her book, The Artist's Way, which we were discussing

recently, and I just gifted to my sister-in-law still in publication. It is a book about kind of

finding your artistic self. Yeah, like she sort of argues like everybody is a creative self,

right, in your whole, once you're honoring the creative part of yourself. Yeah. And you sort of argues like everybody is a creative self, right? And your whole

once you're honoring the creative part of yourself. Yeah. And you're not when you're not.

That's her point. Part of the book. And this is a part that you remembered and Erica, who works

with us remembered, and I had completely forgot about that she uses this term crazy makers in it.

Yes. Here is what she says.

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