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The Commentary Magazine Podcast

Deeeee Santis—and Ukraine

The Commentary Magazine Podcast

Commentary Magazine

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.65.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 May 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

We are fortunate to be joined on today's podcast by Fred Kagan, military historian at AEI and analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, to explain to us the incredible complexities of the present moment in the Russia-Ukraine war. But first we assess the first day of the DeeeSantis (as the governor of Florida himself pronounces it) presidential campaign. Give a listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to the commentary magazine daily podcast today's Thursday, May 25th, 2023.

0:29.5

I'm John Pudhord. It's the editor of commentary magazine with me as always executive editor

0:34.1

Abe Greenwald. Hi Abe. Hi John.

0:36.4

Media commentary columnist Christine Rosen. Hi Christine. Hi John.

0:41.6

Washington commentary columnist Matthew Kahnetti. Hi Matt. Hi John.

0:45.8

And joining us today, uh, Christine's and Matt's colleague at the American Enterprise Institute,

0:53.5

military historian, head of the, I'm trying to remember the name now, the critical

0:59.2

Fred's project. Fred Rick Kahn. Hi Fred. Thanks for joining us again today. Hi John.

1:08.0

Great. So, um, we are going to turn to Fred for illumination and analysis of the, of the

1:16.8

current, extremely complicated situation between Russia and Ukraine. But before we do that,

1:22.7

we really do need to talk about the launch of what I now understand. I'm supposed to pronounce

1:28.5

because this is how he himself pronounced it in his announcement video, the Ron DeSantis

1:35.7

presidential campaign. I've been pronouncing it from the outset of his career as DeSantis,

1:41.1

but he says at the end, I am Ron DeSantis. And I'm running for president of the United States.

1:47.3

I would say that's the only real information that I got out of, uh, out of his announcement

1:53.1

video. Um, I'm, and there's of course this whole issue about his appearance on Twitter

2:01.2

spaces and how it crashed Twitter spaces. I think that's really more a crisis for Elon

2:08.2

Musk and his supposed technical prowess and running a website that apparently nobody, uh,

2:15.9

you know, battle tested to see whether or not they could have, you know, a million people

2:19.6

on Twitter spaces at once. But it's not a good look to start your campaign with a horrible

2:25.0

technical glitch. Everyone's quoting this Roger Ailes statement that, um, you know, it doesn't

2:31.9

matter what you do. If you fall in the orchestra pit, that's going to be the news. So DeSantis

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