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When we got James, it was my first year back to Pittsburgh,

and I didn't really know James.

And Clark Hagen's broke a little bone in his hand

about two weeks before we were going to training camp and we needed a

roster needed a feeling yeah and and my man dibo has a feeling well this is an amazing story

if you got a couple seconds i'll tell you the story i got. We came in to the, you know, you meet,

getting ready to go to camp and everything. And they said, Hagen just broke his hand,

said, we got to, we got to get another linebacker. And so they're bringing up these names and this

and that. Some I knew. Some I didn't. I didn't know James. And they said, well, what do you think?

And I said, well, Coach Butler is coach James.

And I said, you should I get his opinion?

I said, I don't know James.

And Coach Butler said, I think he would be very good to bring to camp because he has

some background knowledge of our defense. And so I said to myself, I made a little minute

and listen. I said, I got to look at this guy. It's because I knew something about his college

career and the people that had coached him there and they had a

high opinion of those coaches.

Okay.

And I said, so I started watching him and hell, I didn't see anybody blocking him.

Okay, Debo.

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