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4.3 • 2.4K Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2025
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
From the gold accents going up in the White House, to his orders to bring back classical design to federal buildings, Donald Trump is a president with a very specific aesthetic sensibility—which often is a manifestation of his politics.
Guest: Abdallah Fayyad, policy correspondent at Vox
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| 1:16.2 | Can we talk about the Oval Office? |
| 1:20.1 | If you close your eyes, I bet you can picture it. |
| 1:22.2 | The fireplace, the portraits, |
| 1:26.8 | and ever since Donald Trump has been back in office, the gold. |
| 1:40.8 | Before we really get into it, it's worth talking about what this room has looked like historically. |
| 1:43.3 | If you Google around, you'll see. Joe Biden kept a moon rock in there. |
| 1:46.9 | Also a bust of Martin Luther King Jr., one of Caesar Chavez, too. And all that stuff has been moved. |
| 1:53.8 | Even the moon rock. How did you notice the changes? |
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