Welcome to the Refine Collective Podcast. I'm your host, Cat Harris.

This podcast is designed to hold space for honest conversations. From purity culture to faith,

sexuality, relationships, identity, culture, deconstruction, and more. My hope is to look

out in the face, be curious, seek God, and ask meaningful questions to address any elephant

in the room with openness, nuance, and grace. I won't pretend to be an expert and definitely

don't have all the answers. And though it may feel easier and more comfortable to exist

in the black and white, I invite you to discover God with me in the gray and unexpected spaces.

So whoever you are, whatever you do or don't believe, you are welcome here and have a seat

at this table.

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Welcome to the Refine Collective Podcast. I'm Ruhoz Kat Harris and a special thank you

and shout out to new Stan Studio here at One Rock Center. Thank you for producing and

sponsoring this episode of The Refine Collective. If you want to stay connected to Rockefeller,

check them out on Twitter, at Rock Center, NYC, or on the Instagrams at Rockefeller Center.

Also thank you to my lovely Patreon community. I say weekend, week out. This is the space

on the internet, my little corner of online virtual community. That is so sacred and special

to me. We have live monthly coaching calls on Zoom where we together talk about our doubts,

faith questions, questions about sex, questions really about everything I offer on the spot

coaching. I have exclusive VIP videos just for the Patreon fan. Recently, I launched a response

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