ID the Future, a podcast about evolution and intelligent design.

Welcome to ID the Future, I'm Andrew McDermid.

Today, enjoy the second half of an intimate conversation between philosopher of science and best-selling author Stephen

Meyer and one of his dearest friends and longest-standing colleagues, Dr. David Berlinsky.

The occasion for the exchange was a recent gathering of Discovery Institute colleagues and

supporters in Cambridge, England. Dr. Berlinski, in case you don't know him or aren't familiar with his background,

is a senior fellow at Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture.

He has taught philosophy, mathematics, and English at such universities as Stanford,

Rutgers, the City University of New York, and the Universite de Paris.

He is author of numerous books, including a tour of the calculus, the advent of the algorithm, Newton's gift, the Deniable Darwin, and Signs

After Babel. In this second half of the conversation, Berlinski discusses the books he has written,

his career and teaching, and some of his most memorable experiences critiquing the Darwinian paradigm.

The pair recalled Berlinsky's seminal article in Commentary magazine, The Deniable Darwin, that brought him to the attention of Meyer and the intelligent design research community.

And then Berlinsky agreed to join forces with Meyer and his colleagues,

and since then, his contribution has been formidable.

Enjoy hearing the conclusion to this intimate exchange

between two great friends and colleagues

about some of the work they've done together

to expose the inadequacy of the Darwinian paradigm.

We had a 40th anniversary conference commemorating with Starr.

Out in Boston, right?

In Boston.

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