Deconstructing Compassionate ABA: Session 283 with Greg Hanley

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Matt Cicoria

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🗓️ 3 December 2024

⏱️ 126 minutes

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Summary

A few weeks ago I was fortunate enough to find a few hours to catch up with many-time guest and all-around podcast fave, Dr. Greg Hanley. We had what turned out to be a lengthy conversation that included the following:

His recent professional association with Action Behavior Centers.
Available jobs at Action Behavior Centers.
The evolution of FTF Behavioral Consulting.
The term, Compassionate ABA, including some of my misgivings on whether terms like these are necessary.
The nuanced role of extinction in Skills Based Treatment.
Distinguishing between the immediate and long-term effects of reinforcement.
Efficacy vs. effectiveness.
Some historical perspectives on Functional Analysis, including the unexpected topic in which the term 'automatic reinforcement' was used.
Questioning the role of descriptive functional assessment.
Greg's recent thoughts on head-directed self-injury.
The role of tics in self-injury.
Skills-based treatment's intersection with constructional approaches to behavioral intervention.

If you think that's a lot, it's just a sample of what we talk about.

Here are the links to what we discussed:

Session 276 with Dr. Anthony Cammilleri.
Ghaemmaghami et al. (2024). Toward Compassion in the Assessment and Treatment of Severe Problem Behavior.
Slaton et al. (2024). Long-term effectiveness and generality of practical functional assessment and skill-based treatment.
Carr et al. (1976). Stimulus control of self-destructive behavior in a psychotic child.
Dr. Jessel's ResearchGate page.
van Haaren (2015). Automatic negative reinforcement: Its possible role in problem behavior with treatment implications.

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, real quick, before we get to this episode, I want to let you know that if you would
0:06.1	like to get these episodes ad-free, and before everyone else gets them, like this one,
0:12.9	this one's been out for at least 24 hours or so, sometimes I put them out a few days early.
0:18.2	So if you want to get these episodes with no ads, no introductory comments,
0:21.8	just the conversation itself, go to patreon.com forward slash behavioral observations to learn how
0:28.2	you can do that. All right, let's get to this episode, and I'm really excited to share this
0:33.6	conversation ahead with Dr. Greg Hanley. So a few weeks ago, I was fortunate to find
0:38.9	a couple of hours to catch up with Greg. And as you know, Greg is a many-time guest, an all-round
0:45.5	podcast faith. And it turned out to be a really lengthy conversation because he had quite a few
0:51.2	things on his mind. Here are some of the things we talked about.
0:59.6	We talked about his recent and new professional association with action behavior centers.
1:05.2	We talked about the evolution of his company, FTF behavioral consulting and what their plans are going forward. And we spent a good amount of time talking about the term
1:09.3	compassionate ABA, including some of my misgivings on whether terms like these are necessary.
1:14.8	So we have some back and forth on that.
1:17.8	And then we get into the evolution of the practical functional assessment and skills-based treatment process, focusing more on the latter.
1:26.3	And we distinguish between the immediate and long-term
1:28.7	effects of reinforcement. Greg talked about efficacy versus effectiveness. I think that's a really
1:34.4	interesting part of the conversation. We talked about some historical perspectives on functional
1:39.3	analysis, which I think you'll also find interesting, including the unexpected topic in which the
1:43.7	term automatic reinforcement first appeared in the literature.
1:47.8	We talked about the role of the descriptive functional assessment, Greg's recent thoughts on
1:54.9	head-directed self-injury, the role of ticks in self-injury and skills-based treatments intersection with
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