Deconstructing Atlantis: Platonic Allegory Meets Bronze Age Reality Meets Dangerous Conspiracy (Part 3)

Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! | Greek Mythology & the Ancient Mediterranean

Liv Albert

Arts, Comedy, History

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🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Just because Plato's Atlantis was never intended to convey history doesn't meant it didn't have some historical inspiration in the form of a Bronze Age natural disaster... Plus: how did Atlantis become what it is today and where do these dangerous ideas come from? This episode was written and recorded before the eruption of the volcano in Tonga in January of 2022 which is why the tragedy and those affected were not mentioned.

CW/TW: far too many Greek myths involve assault. Given it's fiction, and typically involves gods and/or monsters, I'm not as deferential as I would be were I referencing the real thing.

Sources/Further Reading: Plato's Timaeus and Critias, quotes translated by Benjamin Jowett; A Brief History of Atlantis: Plato's Ideal State by Stephen P. Kershaw (includes alternate translation of Plato); PDF: Truth, Lies, and History in Plato's Timaeus and Critias by Thomas K Johansen, 1998.

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