I'm I'm not going to be.

This is Nick Estes.

We are joined by the man behind the screen, behind the curtain. I should say not the screen,

but you are kind of behind the screen now. Man behind the curtain, Sina Rachmani, a host of the East is a

podcast, which I actually first started listening to before I met you.

And I just think it's funny when you started the show.

You used to not be on Mike at all.

And then like now you're just,

now it's the Sina Raqmani show.

I used to be just kind of like a found,

like a found footage kind of show.

Like the genre of like horror of fond footage.

Yeah, yeah.

It's true.

Now you're the producer for the Red Nation podcast.

And yeah, welcome to the show.

Maybe I think everyone knows you, but why don't you introduce yourself to the audience?

I think the very few times that you do appear on screen is when something bad is happening.

Yeah, I was going to say that.

It's like the same reason why I invite Alex Avenia on as well.

Yeah, it's like, yeah.

Well, there's, I mean, we'll get into it. That's not true. That's not true. We're here to talk about that, the mix. It's crazy what's happening. No, thank you, Nick. Thank you for the invite. I love, I love coming on this show. It's weird. I produce these shows, too. So it's like, I'll see you in editing, Sina. so I'm like producing this with myself. I feel like that episode of The Simpsons

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